In this historic interview with Elon Musk, the American billionaire discusses his vision for coming decades where robots and artificial intelligence will eliminate poverty and make work optional. He also addresses the challenges of managing his vast empire spanning from electric vehicles to space and AI. He further clarifies a radical shift in Tesla's mission from 'Sustainable Abundance' to 'Amazing Abundance'.
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Elon Musk
CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, and xAI; Founder of Government Efficiency Ministry (DOGE)
At a critical moment when Musk faces multiple challenges at Tesla while pushing a bold vision for the near future based on robots and artificial intelligence.
سTesla faces fierce competition and declining stock prices - are you concerned the company is losing its momentum in the market?
I'm not worried about the long term. Tesla is going through a critical transition period, but we're focused on what really matters - developing autonomous driving and humanoid robots. Yes, there are short-term challenges, but the future market for robots could be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. People don't fully understand the magnitude of the opportunity. Tesla's future is about Optimus and autonomous driving technology, not just selling cars.
سYou recently spoke about a world without work and without money in 10-20 years - how can people truly understand this idea?
AI and robots are the only way to make everyone rich. Imagine that most things you need now - food, shelter, healthcare - will become abundant and nearly free. There will be no poverty because robots will produce everything with enormous efficiency. Work will become optional, like sports or hobbies. It's natural that people feel anxious, but this will happen. There will be shocks and disruptions during the transition - a technological tsunami - but the end result will be very positive.
سWhy did you change Tesla's mission from 'Sustainable Abundance' to 'Amazing Abundance'? Some see this as neglecting environmental issues.
The latter is more joyful. When we talk about true abundance, the environment will actually be in much better shape anyway. Robots and AI will allow us to build an economy that's naturally more efficient and less polluting. The fundamental problem was never really about sustainability as much as it was about abundance. If we can provide everything for everyone without scarcity, most geopolitical and environmental conflicts will naturally end.
